TB Khullin 107 My teacher Dr. José Faur was correct

Cold food does not transfer the taste. Only when the taste of meat or milk is infused in the other is this food prohibited. Halakhicly taste is only transferred in four ways: 1, through heat; 2, through fat; 3, through salting (chemical heat); and 4, through pickling (the milk and meat are in a liquid for at least 24 hours straight) Daf TB Khullin 107 discusses do you need to shopping bags, one for meat products and one for dairy products, when returning home from the supermarket.

“MISHNA: A person may bind meat and cheese in one cloth, provided that they do not come into contact with each other….

“GEMARA: The mishna teaches that one may bind meat and cheese together in one cloth, provided that they do not come into contact with each other. The Gemara asks: And if they come into contact with each other, what of it? It is a case of one cold food in contact with another cold food, and they would not absorb substances from one another. Abaye said: Granted that cold foods do not require the peeling of the place where they came into contact, as they do not absorb substances from one another. Nevertheless, don’t they require rinsing in water? The Sages therefore decreed against the contact of even cold meat and cheese, lest one come to eat them without rinsing them first.” (Sefaria.org translation)

Obviously we try to keep meat products and milk products separate as a fence around the Torah prohibition. Nevertheless, we must keep in mind that taste is only transferred in the four above methods. When cold meat and cold cheese accidentally touch each other, no taste is transferred and both are permitted. All one has to do is rinse the meat and cheese under running water to remove any of the other food particles clinging to it. Once you do that, both the milk and meat products may be eaten.

Today some people separate meat and milk products so completely their homes have two sinks and two dishwashers. They may even have two refrigerators. In my opinion none of this is required in order to keep a kosher home. When I was a rabbinical student I studied the laws of kashrut with Dr. José Faur z”l. He once said in class that Jews today are more strict in their observance of kashrut and need be and more lenient in their observance of Shabbat. He was right then and still right today.

 

TB Khullin 106 How much of your hands do you have to wash before eating bread?

Before eating bread we wash our hands ritually and recite the blessing 

"בָרוּךְ אַתָה ה', אֱ-לֹהֵינוּ מֶלֶךְ הָעוֹלָם, אֲשֶר קִדְשָנוּ בְמִצְוֹתָיו וְצִוָנוּ עַל נְטִילַת יָדַיִם. -Praise are You, LORD our God, King of the Universe, who has sanctified us through His commandments, and has commanded us about washing hands.” If you look at your hand, you’ll see three joints. The first joint is nearest to the tip of your finger. The second joint is at your knuckles. The third joint is closest to your wrist. Today’s daf TB Khullin 106 discusses how much of your hands to have to wash before eating bread.

“The Sages taught in a baraita: In washing of the hands for consumption of non-sacred food, one must pour the water on the area that extends until the joint of the fingers. In washing hands for consumption of teruma, he must pour on the area extending until the joint. In sanctifying the hands and feet in the Temple before the service, he must pour the water until another joint, where the palm meets the wrist…

“Rav said this halakha to his students while indicating with his hand the joints to which the baraita is referring: One washes until here, the second joint of the fingers, for non-sacred food, and until there, the third joint, where the fingers join the palm, for teruma. And Shmuel disagreed and said: One washes until here both for eating non-sacred food and for teruma, indicating the more stringent location, the third joint where the fingers join the palm. And Rav Sheshet said: Until here both for the consumption of non-sacred food and for teruma, indicating the more lenient location, the second joint.

“Bar Hedya said: I was standing before Rabbi Ami, and he said: One washes until here both for non-sacred food and for teruma, indicating the more stringent location, the third joint. And do not say that Rabbi Ami acted this way only because he is a priest and acted stringently to avoid confusing teruma and non-sacred food. This cannot be, as Rabbi Meyasha, son of the son of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi, is a Levite, and yet he too said: Until here both for non-sacred food and for teruma, indicating the more stringent location.” (Sefaria.org translation)

Our tradition is to be stringent as Shmuel teaches and wash our hands up to the point where our palms meet our arms. (Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Sefer Ahavah, Chapter 6, Halakha 4)

 

 

 

TB Khullin 105 How long do you have to wait between eating milk and meat?

Today’s daf TB Khullin 105 discusses how long do you have to wait between eating milk and meat and meat and milk.

“Rav Asi posed a dilemma to Rabbi Yoḥanan: How much time should one wait between eating meat and eating cheese? Rabbi Yoḥanan said to him: No time at all. The Gemara asks: Is that so? But doesn’t Rav Ḥisda say: If one ate meat, it is prohibited for him to eat cheese immediately, but if he ate cheese it is permitted for him to eat meat without delay? Rather, Rav Asi actually asked Rabbi Yoḥanan the following question: How much time should one wait between eating cheese and eating meat? In response to this question, Rabbi Yoḥanan said to him: No time at all.

“After tangentially citing a statement of Rav Ḥisda, the Gemara discusses the matter itself. Rav Ḥisda says: If one ate meat, it is prohibited for him to eat cheese immediately, as the meat contains fatty substances that stick to one’s mouth and preserve the flavor of meat. But if he ate cheese it is permitted for him to eat meat without delay. Rav Aḥa bar Yosef said to Rav Ḥisda: In the case of meat that is between the teeth, what is the halakha? Are these remnants considered meat to the extent that one may not eat cheese as long as they are in his mouth? "In response, Rav Ḥisda read about him the following verse: “While the meat was yet between their teeth” (Numbers 11:33). This verse indicates that even when the meat is between one’s teeth it is still considered meat, and therefore one may not partake of cheese until that meat has been removed.” (Sefaria.org translation)

Even though one does not have to wait between eating milk then meat, the Gemara teaches that one should clean the mouth by wiping it with some solid food and then rinsing it in order to remove all dairy residue. Today that would mean brushing your teeth and rinsing them. Because during this time period utensils like forks and spoons did not exist or were hardly used and most foods were eaten by hand, there’s also a tradition of washing your hands after eating cheese so no cheese residue remains on your hands before you eat your meat.

Since the Gemara is ambiguous concerning how much time one must wait between eating meat and milk, many different traditions arose. One is forbidden to eat cheese after eating meat, fowl, and undomesticated kosher animals until one has waited six hours which is the measurement of time that one waits between meals. However even after waiting six hours there still meat between one’s teeth, one must remove the meat from his teeth. There are those who say one does not have to wait six hours. As long as one stops eating meat and recites Grace after meals, one is permitted eat the cheese after wiping and rinsing the mouth. There are those who have the tradition of waiting only one hour between eating meat and milk. Nevertheless without reciting Grace after meals, waiting one hour is insufficient. After one hour one still finds meat stuck between his teeth, he has to remove it. Those who are scrupulous wait six hours after eating meat before eating cheese. See Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Forbidden Foods, Chapter 9 Halakha 28 and Shulkhan Arukh, Yoreh De’ah 89:1.

I don’t know where the tradition awaiting three or four hours between eating meat and milk originated even though many people observe this tradition as well.

TB Khulin 103-4 An introduction to the prohibitions of milk and meat

At the very bottom of daf TB Khullin 103b we begin eighth chapter of our massekhet. This chapter deals with the laws of mixing milk and meat together. Because the verse “you shall not cook a kid in its mother’s milk–לֹֽא־תְבַשֵּׁ֥ל גְּדִ֖י בַּחֲלֵ֥ב אִמּֽוֹ” appears three times in the Torah, the rabbis derive three Torah prohibitions. One is not permitted to cook milk and red meat together. One is not permitted to eat milk and meat together that has been cooked together. One is not permitted to derive any benefit from a mixture of milk and meat together, for example, giving a milk and meat mixture to your pet dog.

The Mishnah begins “It is prohibited to cook any meat of domesticated in milk, except for the meat of fish and grasshoppers, whose halakhic status is not that of meat.” (Sefaria.org translation) The Gemara discusses whether chicken and undomesticated animals are included in this Torah prohibition or is the mixture only prohibited according to rabbinic law. Although the Gemara doesn’t come to a conclusive answer today, the final consensus is that mixing milk and chicken is only prohibited by rabbinic law. This has practical implications we shall learn later. If there is a doubt when red meat and milk has been accidentally mixed together in a proportion more than 60:1 (for example, some milk fell into a beef stew), the entire mixture must be thrown away. We are always stringent when comes to not transgressing a Torah prohibition. If there’s a doubt concerning an accidental mixture of chicken and milk, one need not throw out the mixture because we may act leniently in a case of a rabbinic prohibition.

If the prohibition of mixing chicken and milk together is a Torah prohibition then all three above prohibitions apply. If the prohibition of mixing chicken milk together is only a rabbinic prohibition, do all three prohibition apply? I was surprised to learn that no. Both Rambam and the Shulkhan Arukh both poskin that one is only forbidden to eat chicken and milk together.

“Similarly, the meat of a wild beast and the meat of a fowl together with the milk of a wild beast or the milk of a domesticated animal is not forbidden according to Scriptural Law. Therefore it is permitted to cook it and it is permitted to benefit from it. It is forbidden to partake of it according to Rabbinic Law so that people at large will not be negligent and come to violate the Scriptural prohibition against milk and meat and partake of the meat of a kosher domesticated animal [cooked] in the milk of a kosher domesticated animal. For the literal meaning of the verse implies only the meat of a kid in the milk of its actual mother. Therefore, they forbade all meat in milk.” (Mishneh Torah Forbidden Foods 9:4)

“The prohibition of the mixture applies only to that of meat and milk from a pure animal: if one of the two comes from an impure animal, cooking as well as enjoyment is permitted. Cooking and enjoyment are permitted if the meat comes from a wild animal or poultry, even if both the meat and milk come from pure animals. Such a mixture is even prohibited to eat only by rabbinic ordinance. Whereas the flesh of fish and locusts is not even prohibited by rabbinic ordinance.
GLOSS: It is customary to put poultry meat in almond milk, seeing that such a mixture, even if the milk were real, is only prohibited by rabbinic order; but when it comes to beef, a few almonds must be left in the milk to avoid suspicion, as stated earlier, § 66, regarding blood.” (Shulkhan Arukh, Yoreh De’ah  87:3) Today where plant-based milk’s are very common, one need not suspect an observant Jew violating the  Rama’s custom when a glass of plant-based milk is on the table without some kind of the container on the table

The second Mishnah teaches another important halakha. One may not place chicken and milk on the same dining room table lest people unthinkingly eat them together. However, one may place chicken and milk together on the kitchen countertop because nobody usually eats from that countertop. “The meat of birds may be placed with cheese on one table but may not be eaten together with it; this is the statement of Beit Shammai. And Beit Hillel say: It may neither be placed on one table nor be eaten with cheese. Rabbi Yosei said: This is one of the disputes involving leniencies of Beit Shammai and stringencies of Beit Hillel. The mishna elaborates: With regard to which table are these halakhot stated? It is with regard to a table upon which one eats. But on a table upon which one prepares the cooked food, one may place this meat alongside that cheese or vice versa, and need not be concerned that perhaps they will be mixed and one will come to eat them together.” (Sefaria.org translation) Our Mishnah records one of the six times when Beit Shammai is more stringent than Beit Hillel and as usual we follow the opinion of Beit Hillel.

The imperative of justice #shoftim#devartorah#parashathashavua

Throughout the Bible God has commanded us to exercise justice in our dealings with others. Now that the Israelites are about to enter the Promised Land this week’s Torah portion, Shoftim, exhorts us: “You shall appoint magistrates and officials for all your tribes, and all the settlements that the Lord your God is giving you, and they shall govern the people with to justice. You shall not judge unfairly: you shall show no partiality; you shall not take bribes, for bribes blind the eyes of the discerning and upset the plea of the just. Justice, justice shall you pursue, that you may thrive and occupy the land that the Lord your God is giving you.” (Deuteronomy 16:18-20)

The prophets like Micah remind us what God wants from us. “He has shown you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God?” (Micah 6:8).

The prophets like Jeremiah rebuked our ancestors for perpetrating injustice in their day which should act as a warning signal how we should live our lives today as well. “They know no limits in deeds of evil; they do not judge with justice the cause of the orphan, to make it prosper, and they do not defend the rights of the needy.” (Jer. 5:28). “They have held fast to deceit, they have refused to return. I have given heed and listened, but they do not speak honestly; no one repents of wickedness, saying ‘What have I done!’”  (Jer. 8:6)  

We should be concerned that the Department of Justice (DOJ) is acting as the President’s personal attorney by prosecuting his enemies rather than representing the American people. Vindictive prosecution seems to be their major occupation of today’s DOJ. Heather Cox Richardson writes:

“The Department of Justice has been caught repeatedly misleading grand juries or committing misconduct in getting indictments. Hearn’s lawyers were suggesting that the Department of Justice engaged in the same misconduct in the indictment of David Hearn for damaging the bottom of the reflecting pool.

In their filing, they noted that a judge and former federal prosecutor in the District of Columbia had recently stated that “[g]enerations of presidential administrations and public officials” have reinforced the idea, called the “presumption of regularity,” that public officials do their jobs properly, operate in good faith, and follow correct procedures. But, the judge noted, “In just six months, the President of the United States may have forfeited the right to such a presumption.” (August 2, 2026)

Our national elections are just a few months away. I encourage you to vote for the candidates who uphold the rule of law and hold those who pervert justice accountable.

 

Khullin 98 Why is the annulment ratio for eggs different?

What is the ratio of permitted taste to annul the forbidden taste in a mixture? Although later on in our daf TB Khullin 98 a disagreement concerning this ratio is presented, the accepted halakha is a ratio of 60:1. There must be 60 times more of the permitted taste to annul the forbidden taste in order to make the mixture permissible to eat. One exception is eggs.

“The Gemara continues its discussion of nullifying forbidden foods. Rav Shemen bar Abba says that Rav Idi bar Idi bar Gershom says that Levi bar Perata says that Rabbi Naḥum says that Rabbi Biryam says in the name of a certain elder, and his name was Rabbi Ya’akov, that the Sages in the house of the Nasi said: If a non-kosher egg is mixed with kosher eggs, if there are sixty eggs they are all forbidden, but if there are sixty-one eggs they are all permitted.

“Rabbi Zeira said to Rav Shemen bar Abba: See, one can infer from your words that you fix a limit to permit the eggs if there is a total of sixty-one eggs, including the non-kosher egg. This is a revelation, because the two most eminent Sages of the generation did not clarify this matter. These two eminent Sages were Rabbi Ya’akov bar Idi and Rabbi Shmuel bar Naḥmani, and both of them said in the name of Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi: In a case where a non-kosher egg is mixed with kosher eggs, if there are sixty eggs they are all forbidden, but if there are sixty-one eggs they are all permitted.

"And a dilemma was raised before these Sages: When Rabbi Yehoshua ben Levi said they are permitted if there are sixty-one eggs, does that mean there are sixty-one eggs altogether, with the non-kosher egg, or does it perhaps mean that there must be sixty-one kosher eggs aside from the non-kosher egg? And they did not resolve this dilemma. And yet, it appears as though the Master, Rav Shemen, has resolved the dilemma, because you implied that the mixture is kosher if there are a total of sixty-one eggs including the non-kosher egg. “The Gemara continues: It was stated that Rabbi Ḥelbo says that Rav Huna says: If a non-kosher egg becomes mixed with kosher eggs, if there are sixty kosher eggs in addition to that non-kosher egg, the entire mixture is forbidden. But if there are sixty-one kosher eggs in addition to that one non-kosher egg, the mixture is permitted.” (Sefaria.org translation)

We’re used to buying the same size eggs in a carton at the supermarket. Somebody has measured the eggs and put the extra large eggs in one carton and the medium eggs in another. That was not the case in days gone by. Ramban suggests that egg sizes are not uniform. When the purchaser bought a dozen eggs, eggs came in all different sizes. To make sure that the ratio would actually be 60:1, the rabbis bumped up the ratio to 61:1 to compensate for smaller eggs.

TB Khullin 91 Not so bad to be human after all

Angels are perfect and we human beings are flawed is a well-known fact. Psalm 8: 5 says that God made humans “a little lower than the angels” and John Steinbeck in his book Travels with Charlie cynically adds “slipping ever since.” Daf TB Khullin 91b teaches that’s not true. In many ways human beings are superior to the Angels.

“Rav Ḥananel said that Rav said: Three groups of ministering angels recite a song every day from the verse “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord”; one says: “Holy,” and another one says: “Holy,” and another one says: “Holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of His glory” (Isaiah 6:3). (The Kedusha during the Shakharit and Musaf Amidah proclaims God’s sovereignty. This pattern is duplicated in the Kedusha modeled after the Roman custom. A Roman king was coronated with the choir repeating a verse and coming together for the third time.-gg)

“The Jewish people are more dear to the Holy One, Blessed be He, than the ministering angels, as the Jewish people may recite a song of praise to God at any time, but ministering angels recite a song of praise only one time per day. And some say that the ministering angels recite a song of praise one time per week. And some say that they recite a song of praise one time per month. And some say that they recite a song of praise one time per year. And some say that they recite a song of praise one time in every seven years. And some say that they recite a song of praise one time per Jubilee. And some say that they recite a song of praise one time in the entire history of the world.

“And furthermore, the Jewish people mention the name of God after two words, as it is stated: “שְמַע (1) יִשְרָאֵל (2)  ה' -Hear, Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one” (Deuteronomy 6:4). But the ministering angels mention the name of God only after three words, as it is written: “And one called unto another, and said: “קָדוֹשׁ (1) קָדוֹשׁ (2) קָדוֹשׁ (3) ה' צְבָאוֹת -Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of His glory” (Isaiah 6:3). (In other words we human beings have a close relationship with the Holy One then the angels!)

“And the ministering angels do not recite their song above until the Jewish people recite their song below, on earth, as it is stated: “When the morning stars sang together” (Job 38:7), referring to the Jewish people, who are compared to stars; and only then does the verse state: “And all the sons of God shouted for joy,” which is a reference to the angels. This baraita teaches that the angels mention the name of God only after three words, i.e., after saying the word “holy” three times, whereas according to what Rav Ḥananel stated that Rav said, the third group of angels says the word “holy” once and then immediately mentions the name of God. (Sefaria.org translation)

Angels only proclaim God’s sovereignty in heaven while we human beings proclaim God’s sovereignty both in heaven and on earth. In fact the rabbis limit the status of angels. The righteous can rise above them for three reasons. 1, Angels do not have the evil inclination and can do no wrong; consequently, they don’t get a lot of credit for their behavior. On the other hand human beings who overcome their evil inclination can exceed the level of angels. 2, Doing God’s will, humans make God imminent on earth. By observing the mitzvot they extend God’s rule on earth. Three, angels receive no credit for observing divine commands. Human beings who have a choice and choose wisely, they get credit for complying and overcoming the disposition of disobeying.

All these understandings underscores Israel superiority over the angels. Humans capacity to make the presence of God palpable on earth and by extending God’s rule here on earth by observing the mitzvot demonstrate we can do what angels can’t.

Not so bad to be human after all.