Today’s daf TB Kiddushin 79 contains a classic discussion. When there is an unknown amount of time lapse, should one use the historical presumption (חזקה דמעיקרא) or the current presumption (חזקה דהשתא) as the determinant factor? Here is the background to better understand the case under discussion. Only a father may marry off his minor daughter (קטנה) and a young girl (נערה) who is between the age of 9 and 12 years old. Once the girl reaches the age of majority (בוגרת), she and not her father may accept kiddushin on her behalf.
Here is the case. Both her father and she accepted kiddushin during the in between time she
was a young girl and an adult. Which kiddushin
are effective? Rav holds that the current presumption decides which kiddushin is effective while Shmuel says
the historical presumption decides which are effective.
“No, it is necessary in a case where
he betrothed her on the day that these six months were
completed. Rav said: She is a grown woman at present. There is therefore a
presumption that since she is now a grown woman, she was also
a grown woman when her father betrothed her in the morning. And Shmuel
said: Perhaps it is only now that her signs indicating
puberty came, but she might have still been a young woman when her
father betrothed her.” (Sefaria.org translation)
The Gemara
brings three different cases to litigate who is correct, Rav or Shmuel. The
first case concerns a mikvah. Originally
it was a kosher mikvah containing 40 seah of water. When it was measured sometime
later, it no longer contain the minimum amount of water and was no longer
kosher. What is the status of all the objects that were immersed in the mikvah between the time it was known to
be kosher and the time it no longer was. Do we say the historical presumption
or the current presumption is the determinant?
The second
case concerns a barrel of wine that was set aside for trumah, the gifts to the kohanim.
This barrel of wine was full. As the vintner produce more wine, he designated
the percentage of wine needed for trumah
to the full barrel of wine. When it was time to give the wine as trumah to the kohanim, it had turned to
vinegar. Since vinegar is a different entity than wine, one cannot use vinegar
to fulfill the trumah obligation of
wine. At one point it was one and a later time it was vinegar. In that in
between time when we don’t know exactly when the wine became vinegar, do we say
the historical presumption and the farmer has fulfilled his trumah application or the current
presumption is the determinant in the farmer needs to set aside other wine to
fulfill his obligation?
The third
case concerns a gift of money. A healthy person may gift is made to anyone he
wishes and this gift is irreversible. A person on his deathbed (שְׁכִיב מְרַע) may
later rescinded his gift by becoming well. He only wanted to gift that money
because he thought he was good as dead and no longer needed it. What happens in
the case were person and his deathbed gives his money away, but sometime later
becomes miraculously well. Now that he wants his money back, do we say the
historical presumption that he was on his deathbed or the current presumption
or that he has recovered is the determinant?
After much
analysis and discussion the Gemara decides in favor of Rav. “Mar Zutra said
to Rav Ashi: This is what Ameimar said: The halakha is in
accordance with the opinion of Shmuel. And Rav Ashi said: The halakha
is in accordance with the opinion of Rav. The Gemara concludes: And
the halakha is in accordance with the opinion of Rav.”
(Sefaria.org translation)
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